Israel was the prodical.. judah is the elder son that was jealous of israel.. Study The prodigal son and the two houses of Israel. Besides I dont understand why you shouldnt listen to Contemporary Christian music. You might I actually looked up the word just now (Random House Websters College Dictionary), and here are the definitions: 3.) I have 3 children I sometimes spank I sometimes lecture. I loved him, but I hated the way he treated me. I hope that you left your church in good terms and that they knew how you felt and whoever was wrong to be revived and allow the precense of God to bring the individual to the norm in other words what christian ought to be not what men want to be. The women that I befriended in this church will always be my sister in Christ. 7. The IFB Insidious Fundamental Baptist Church . We went to th IFB church that next day to say we went to get them off our back. If you stay, Im almost certain youll end up regretting it. OMG = Oh My Goodness! 2Co 2:10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ; You said we dont forgive people for their salvation we cant because we arent Jesus. I was in an IFB church for eight years and left because the weight of never feeling that I would be good enough for this church had worn me down. 3 So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but dont follow their example. You better be right with God and have your name written in the lambs book of life. Anybody who opposes the IFB teaching is bitter Cant say that because anybody who opposes BIBLICAL teaching is spiritually blind because they dont know the truth. I didnt condemn other version by saying Kjv is inspired. Every proposition presented for action of the church must be introduced by motion of one member and seconded by another. Told to leave them to the hog mire until they return to the father.. Everyone has health issues. Thats not unique to the IFB. If you believe that God cant use a divorced man and pull out your Scofield Bible to show why, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 39. N/A I dont believe the IFB church I go to has ulterior motives, but I havent been to any other church to apply that to all IFB churches. This is very good. 43. WebIndependent Fundamental Churches of America, fellowship of conservative, independent Christian churches stressing biblical truth. Ephesians 2:8-9 I love devotions with the Lord. If your child is behaving like a child but you think they are rebellious, misbehaving, mischevious, etc. Their testimony is great Im sure they won more people to the lord than you. If the IFB churches are hurting the cause of Christ, would your attitude and example also hurt His cause. Rather than attack one another, perhaps understand where both are coming from? If you refuse to eat at a restaurant because they serve alcoholic beverages, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 27. All rights reserved. This is the only church Ive been to, so I just awsume all Churchs are loving, caring, forgiving, honest, and strive to bring glory to god and its just sad to here that thats not the case. Please dont mistake this for a lack of respect or an attempt to minimize the seriousness of the abuse that happens among the Independent Fundamental Bapitsts. Happily a brainwashed Bible-folk for about 28 years with more peace in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ and a firm foundation of absolute truth to stand on (yes, thats the KV, haha!). I dont know what Daves intentions were. Who are the Free Will Baptists, and what do they believe? No, but I wanted to send the rest of my life with him. Since the origins of the church, Baptists have said the Bible is the only authority for Christian faith "[3], The New IFB was formed by Anderson and other Baptist pastors in 2017 in an attempt to revive what they perceived older independent Baptist churches once represented. If your church sings Just As I Am at the end of every service We sing that song once in a while since its a good invitational song. I love the Lord with all my heart-I attend church when I want and where I wantbut mostly I have bible studies with Christian friends in coffee shops, homes, and restaurants and (I usually have on a pair of blue jeans. I would of rather take the word literally than follow the world. Its my calling and my ministry. 10 And dont let anyone call you Teacher, for you have only one teacher, the Messiah. For you build tombs for the prophets your ancestors killed, and you decorate the monuments of the godly people your ancestors destroyed. 5. People that oppose things is due to beliefs, so I believe if you oppose the IFB church its because you dont believe what their teaching not because there bitter. We believe that God forbids any attempt to alter one's God-given gender identity by any means, including surgery or appearance. 2. 1 John 1:9 On their arms they wear extra wide prayer boxes with Scripture verses inside, and they wear robes with extra long tassels. Jack hyles was an adulterous heretic. Pastor and his wife paid for reception, photographers, and and shower. The reality is the ONLY TRUE CHURCH is the church that PRACTICES BIBLICAL TEACHINGS and NOT THAT OF MAN-MADE TEACHINGS because THEY ARE AGAINST THE BIBLE because I do ask the question that why there are so many churches. It seemed more like an attack on what the Bible says about life than on a denomination. 6 And they love to sit at the head table at banquets and in the seats of honor in the synagogues. You are still required to tithe in the IFB regardless of your source of income. That was an extensive list, and sooooo true! We believe in the reality of the person of Satan and that he and the fallen angels wage a spiritual warfare against the plan and purposes of God (John 13:2; Acts 5:3; Ephesians 6:11-12). 42. Abortion is murder. I do into great detail about why I believe the IFB is cultish in practice. What surprises me, though, is that he was ordained as a pastor and actually called to pastor DL Moodys church in Massachusetts as a divorced man. If you believe that you will be rewarded or punished according to whether or not youve tithed faithfully, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 47. If you believe that women are inferior to men and are to be submissive to their husbands, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. (2 Cor. 44. I must forgive others the same way God forgave me. 11 The greatest among you must be a servant. 55. Attending all three, in my opinion, is optional. Thats sweet. 40. If you look down on people who are divorced, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 38. That can get a little hairy, though, because you never know when youll end up at a more liberal churchlike yours! If you believe that your health issue is the result of sin in your life, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 49. The New IFB began with Steven Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church in response to perceived liberalism in other independent Baptist churches. We didnt go, but they came back the next week. If you attend a church each Sunday with a team of men that keeps track of attendence each Sunday In our congregation, we do not do that. 52. 29 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Being a IFB preacher, I confess a lot of truth here. Many of these are down right untruthful . I do think that you can drink but you just cant be drink which is a legalistic problem within most Independent Fundamental Baptists. People to Be Executed", "Deported NZ pastor Logan Robertson shows no remorse for harassing 'sissy' Muslims", "Police investigating Auckland pastor who threatened homosexuals", "Advocates urge supporters to ask landlord to evict Stedfast Baptist", "North Texas church that called for execution of gay people won't be evicted", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Independent_Fundamentalist_Baptist&oldid=1142179437, Baptist denominations established in the 21st century, Anti-Islam sentiment in the United States, Organizations that oppose LGBT rights in the United States, Christian organizations established in 2017, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 28 February 2023, at 23:30. Ive known many people whom God has reached using the IFB. Its our personal decisions that cause us to who to hell though most of their practices are not biblical, especially the devotions to the Virgin Mary as they especially have her as the intercessor. So spontaneous but like it was planned. In thinking back, I see that the church was filled with tiny idols like that. 28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. Its about Jesus. Only the KJV will be used in this group; And, aside from the ones you mentioned that are truly sinful (i.e, #17, #53), and the ones that are just inaccurate (i.e, #13, #16, #35), some of these are interesting picks to end up on the list. 13. We had no money. 21 And when you swear by the Temple, you are swearing by it and by God, who lives in it. Im not IFB but I still believe in tithes and offerings. I dont know your past, but I know mine and it aint righteous. This led to calls to evict Stedfast Baptist Church from its location at a strip mall in Watauga, Texas. As God's priests, we can study His Word, pray for our needs, intercede for others, offer worship, and serve in His work. I disclosed to (2) pastors at this church personal and heart felt feelings that I thought and grew up and was told you can talk to your pastor, because he is a man of God. I hope whatever poor experience you had hasnt taken you away from the faith. 27 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. I already know where the IFB is coming from, I was indoctrinated in their dogma for 25 years. And that boy who has grown up in Sunday School (because I brought him in my car every week) is now in 6th grade and has experienced the concept of unconditional love and promises that are kept things which would otherwise have been foreign. Like I said, funny post, but a bit judgmental as well. If one gives because they are forced, or constrained TO GIVE, that giving does not come from the heart, and God does not honor that kind of giving. If you think anything what the churches teach about salvation is easy believing this is not true in our congregation. Baptists are traditionally strong believers in Biblical authority. Its not an Old Testament Law vs New Testament issue. I wanted to marry my boyfriend, but I want to fix him first. XII. His mom, Dorothy Chrisman, was a teacher at the academy run by Fairhaven. Jesus died for all, and if God is willing to forgive me because Jesus died for me than I will forgive another because Jesus died for them too. I had a wedding dress from when my boyfriend proposed on December 5, 2010. First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friends eye. It teaches parents to use their authority to prod, guide, and correct their children. They have distinct responsibilities and operations. I think I find it more funny how you all think it IS funny and Im just over here secretly judging your jeans ;b, But, all teasing aside, the author and other commentators sound very bitter. This is because primarily I am a Bible Believer and if church doctrine of any individual church does not line with scripture, then this so called doctrine is nothing more than a vain tradition. And theyre most likely convinced that Donald Trumps election is really going to make their civil life better! Christ suffered and This list are things that are unique to the IFB. When you discover that female is indeed wearing the acceptable dress, skirt or koulotts youre so relieved to know that shes right with God ! Do you realize this was written as humorous piece ? Smoking in itself is not sin but I do agree that smoking can cause teeth decay, lung cancer, breast cancer, etc. The IFB is the one who is hurting the cause of Christ, just like the Pharisees did. Preachers should not put their congregation under constraint. If I couldnt tolerate anyone saying something different I would instruct the site moderator to delete comments such as yours. And, I am genuinely sorry if any unbiblical or otherwise wrong IFB group, person or church, has hurt anyone here. We can joke around about a differing denomination that we dont agree with, but how we react to a situation that wasnt intended, also matters greatly. 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. We believe in salvation by grace I dont think its as bad as all this, but thats my 2 cents and maybe Im still on the inside.. We believe that eternal life is the present possession of every believer (John 6:37-40, 10:27-30; Romans 8:1, 38-39; I Corinthians 1:4-8; I Peter 1:4-5; Jude 1, 2). [2] They are described by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) as "a loose network of independent churches concentrated in the U.S. connected by their belief in certain religious doctrines and a shared brand of deeply anti-LGBTQ and antisemitic teachings." Hey there. 9 Their worship of me is pointless, because their teachings are rules made by humans.. You can forgive him, that doesnt mean you have to marry him. If your not getting a lot out of your bible read I would recommend a switch to Kjv and to define any word you dont know Slow down reading and meditate on what your reading , The KJV isnt the inspired word of God. People can ask for clarification if they want. I mean, why would you think its too liberal to sing anything other than hymns in the church because, there are some churches within the Southern Baptist Convention, which is different from the IFB, that have a contemporary music worship in one service and have traditional hymns in another service. God Bless. Independent Baptists (a.k.a. Hypocrites! He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches (also known as the New IFB) or officially the New Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement are an association of conservative, King James Only, independent Baptist churches. Even I believe that if you are living in sin you are getting to the point where you are eventually will lose your salvation. Clearly only one unforgivable sin is mentioned in the Bible (KJV even) and that isnt it. Dont throw your pearls to pigs! The end of November we were going to break up because of physical abuse so instead sought counseling for our pastor and his wife. What is the Southern Baptist Convention and what do Southern Baptists believe? I do believe the requirements of a bishop and deacon is the husband of one wife.1 Timothy 3:2,12 we dont look down on divorced people. My pastor has never taught that man can forgive sins. Thats The Holy Spirit speaking to me. We had been boyfriend and girlfriend for 5 years and a baby that was 10 months old. If you believe women shouldnt wear pants, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 12. If you believe that doing, saying, thinking, etc. Also, we lived in a free Appartement with food stamps. [7], The New IFB currently lists 30 affiliated congregations on their website. The pastor pointed out (over the course of his long 2 hour sermon LOL) that a shepherd doesnt use a rod and staff to beat his sheep but to prod and guide them. Jesus Christ is the mediator between God and man. In fact, if you're single you know what I'm talking about. Believing its a sin is one thing, believing its an unforgivable sin is another. Why dont you focus on the log in your own eye then you might be able to see the speck in my eye. LOL. He granted his permission to work in the Infant Ministry and Toddler, and 3-4 year old Ministry. We forgive people, but only God can forgive sins. A friendly fellowship group for members of local New Testament Independent Baptist churches. God works in mysterious ways. People are people and free to choose their own way. Those myths are addressed in my article: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/, I dont need to wait. Every person is individually responsible to God and will be judged according to the beliefs and practices he or she freely chooses. Yes but this is my concern about the IFB beliefs and I understand this was written to make it funny. I sought counciling to see if there was anything in the Bible that could give Hope to our relationship. Neither should control the other. (1 Timothy 2:1-6; 1 Peter 2:5,9; Revelation 5:9,10), The local church is mandated by God to practice two ordinances. That apparently is what Christ would do. We believe that a Fundamentalist is defined by their adherence to orthodox theology, orthodox methodology, and will only fellowship with those who do the same. WebThe Road to Emmaus Baptist Church is an independent Baptist church in Monaca, Pennsylvania. [5], In 2021, the NIFB-affiliated First Works Baptist Church in El Monte, California was bombed with an improvised explosive device. N/A All Catholics will not go to heaven is absolutely wrong. We believe that the sign gifts of the Holy Spirit, such as speaking in tongues and the gift of healing, were temporary. operating or proceeding inconspicuously but with grave effect. I forgot to mention my concerns on some of the other beliefs of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Church: OK That list just brought back memories that I can thankfully laugh at now. Teaching there is any unforgivable sin besides the sin of unbelief in Jesus Christ is not biblical. No government should interfere with the local church's preaching, activities, and ministry. WebAn independent, fundamental Baptist, local church oriented faith Mission serving Baptist and Bible churches in their missions outreaches and church planting around the world. If you think that homosexuality is an unforgivable sin, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 55. I prefer Kjv! We believe that man was created in the image and likeness of God, but that in Adam's sin the race fell, inherited a sinful nature, and became alienated from God; and therefore man is totally depraved, and, of himself, utterly unable to remedy his lost conditin (Genesis 1: 26- 27; Romans 3: 2 2-23; Ephesians 2 : 1-3, 12). No official opinion on this though as I said we should discipline our children the same way God disciplines us You are falling right in line with what they want someone who will robotically obey them. As of 2019, the New IFB listed 32 affiliated congregations on its website, most in the U.S. with some in Australia, Canada, the Philippines and South Africa. Plus they pray to the saints. Even though I dont believe the churchs teachings anymore, Im very grateful for the care and support I received from the Baptists growing up. It is the final authority on all matters of faith, practice, and polity. This group is for fellowship, sharing of resources, devotional thoughts, posting of sermons, news of interest, ministry ideas, missionary/church links, KJV verse photos, and general edification. Mind your own business. Hypocrites! However, the churches are united by a number of doctrines. Landlord Cody Johnson later agreed not to evict Stedfast Baptist from the Watauga location after communicating with Stedfast's lawyer.[15][16]. WebBaptists reject the notion of baptism of people who do not know what is happening to them, such as children. Jesus forgives and loves and he also needs to be honored is all respects. Seeing 2 brothers in Christ debase a conversation (be it one or both parties) to snide remarks, tasteless jabs, and condescension as a form or response, makes us all look bad. This is the same pastor who said, you can come and let us tell you how you can know how you can know for sure how you can make Heaven your home. 18 And you say that to swear by the altar is not binding, but to swear by the gifts on the altar is binding. Yes, I remember that. Hope you have a great day! N/A What a typical, legalistic comment from Jason. We did 2 weeks of counseling and got married at the end of our last session. Does he always heal people no. If you believe that that the wine referred to in the bible is nothing more than the fruit of the vine I generally agree with this part especially when it comes to the Lords Supper because wine from a biblical perspective is grape juice even though I still question if it is NOTHING MORE than the fruit of the vine. Should we stay living together with our baby in fornication? Hypocrites! 7 They love to receive respectful greetings as they walk in the marketplaces, and to be called Rabbi.. For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the lawjustice, mercy, and faith. Whether u believe its talking about judah/Ephraim or not. Our path is narrow, must we fight amongst each other while we walk it? Reading any other version outside of the King James Version is sin same concern as I mentioned topic 1 In 1974 Kenneth Chrismans father passed away. A Baptist church may choose to associate with other churches of like faith around mutual interests or ministry opportunities, but one church cannot exert authority over another. It was organized in Cicero, Illinois, U.S., in June 1930 as the successor to the American Conference of Ask questions if you need to and Ill be happy to explain more. I received these because of lies that I was single with no income. Independent Baptist churches (some also called Independent Fundamental Baptist or IFB) are Christian congregations, generally holding to conservative (primarily fundamentalist) Baptist beliefs. The other thing is: Nowhere in the bible are we commanded to attend a regular CHURCH building and dress nice. If your eyes quickly scan down to see if a fellow female church member is wearing the acceptable skirt, dress or koulotts outside of church, and Heaven forbid shes wearing capris or pants!! On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. And if a lost person were to stumble upon this page and read your list and how you respond to any differing opinions, would you be helping plant a seed? 1. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. Im going back to my independent baptist church where there is no compromising. This is just another sidetrack from the gospel of of Christ.We are to love one another and build up the church. are the result of sin and poor choices, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 46. I am pretty conservative, but find some of this stuff outright ridiculous! Romans 5:8 The word fundamental simply means that we adhere to the fundamentals (basics) of the true Christian faith. We reject all cooperation with this movement. I dont believe they bought our loyalty, because we werent of any good investment. Everyone has sent in their life. God cant forgive you if Jesus didnt save you. For they dont practice what they teach. Any ways God is good and can use any church to reach anyone it all depends on if you as an individual will receive his free gift of salvation, because God is that powerful. 39. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ, the eternal Son of God, became man, without ceasing to be God, having been conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, in order that He might reveal God and redeem sinful men (John 1:1-2, 14; Luke 1:35; Isaiah 9:6; 7:14; Philippians 2:5-8; Galatians 4:4-5). Please read https://baptistdeception.com/bitterness-deception/ for an answer to your bitterness accusation/assumption. is Looking to God for missionaries to help expand the vision and ministries of G.F.F. Our pastor dont take any credit he passes praise the church gives to him towards God. If you think that singing anything other than hymns in church is too liberal, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 15. If you first came to church because Brother Dave or Brother Mike knocked on your door and invited you, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Attending an IFB church is the only way to hear the true gospel and get saved There are so many churches that claim the be the one, true, church, especially the Catholics, Greek Orthodox, Anglicans, some Lutherans, Jehovahs Witnesses, Mormons, etc. A strong percentage of our funding comes through several hundred local churches who support If that is the case, you might as well go out and live like hell, because you are not interested in what God says anyway.
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