found jet another working example that makes CGt stand out. Of course if you are buying models for the next Transformers movie the poly count won't matter that much because those models may be 500,000 each and you have almost unlimited resources to run those. These changes are part of the new TurboSquid Best Price Guarantee (https://resources.squid.io/?p=14893) in which we are assuring TurboSquid customers that they can always find the lowest prices on our site. In this case the fastest support can not help. Its great way to compete and fair . Look for the big picture and think medium/long term. Plus, as I saw in another post, turbosquid does not let you post any links. However, probably allot of us silently disagree on how we are treated as artist on places like Ts. I'm done with them. However, we have detected that you have set your prices back numerous times after we have made appropriate changes. On TS buyer cant do such thing, he needs to contact support on TS. or do you prefer to do business with companies you trust and feel comfortable working with while knowing you are supporting a #FairBusiness model that in the future will revert in your own direct benefit? If you look at the traffic statistics, TS ranks around 9k top sites, and CGT at around 42k, so obviously, people buy more at TS not because they want to spoil the sellers, but rather because they don't come to CGTrader enough and their first place to search is TS. But this is perhaps the only plus turbosquid. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. I started uploading on a few sites and TS was one of them and I can tell you now that that place is a mess. tax on top of a high 60% that TS keeps. Based on those traffic stats CGtrader would clearly benefit from more advertisement out there. I didn't checked it for a while (around a year) but comparatively Cgtrader has a much more streamlined upload system compared to Turbosquid's. You want to put it in your store but it obviously needs some work to make it marketable. A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. We can't even communicate on Ts, and that in an age of supper connectivity, it's just the world on his head. When you just start out you have to price your models at 1 dollar or give them away for free but the second you start selling well they take your models offline and force you to raise your prices Once you raise your prices nobody buys and you are back to square 1. I'm afraid the end of Ts is near and nothing can stop it, maybe the best they can do is raise royalty's to 80% for all sellers, but then again if they don't change the censorship policy's they are applying right now then it will probably not be enough to stop the downfall in the long run. Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. During all these years we always felt Turbosquid favored a sort of chaos and unfair competition between sellers because they were profiting a lot from that lack of understanding and cooperation between content creators. We made this limitation to protect our designers from leechers who download hundreds of free models and then try to monetize them in some other way. In my experience often times a client will ask for certain models but then one must take into consideration what computer specs they have because you don't want your client to get frustrated with the models you buy. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). I don't think it's possible to have WORKING site with both 3d printing and classic models. This is not a "fight" between NoneCG and Turbosquid, but a struggle between different ways of doing business: the classic closed market or a more open one based on a Fair Business model and full comunication between the producer, the marketer and the customer. Money in short term does not always pay of in long run. Gritsuk : Hello Friends, glad to present you my model Female Hand Realistic. He earns trust in this way and we know everything stands or falls with the coming and going of trust. [/quote] If you have any questions about these items before you purchase, please contact us at https://support.turbosquid.com/ I remember fighting them at length to try to put my brand name withing the model description or my website link and eventually lost the battle. CGtrader has been growing steadily faster than Turbosquid for several years, that's why they are making this desperate "first blood" move asking their Investors for an extra cash to buy Sellers out against Marius and his people, with the promise that they will fuck you to death later once the war is won for the #SquidClan. I still get more sales on TS, despite having adjusted all prices to compensate their extortions. There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. I have to agree. What insane kind of practice is that, who owns the work then? I see what you mean but I think it depends on how you are covering markets. From point of buyer who wants to buy a classic 3D model (cg) there is no way I will start searching on cgtrader. i like the points system on cg trader . This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. i think cgtrader can grow stronger with higher quality traffic. A customer coming in from outside can view stores, search inside a store or still search the global data base. Yes, CG Trader is the best now some bugs should be solved. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. Currently on a tight budget, would lose a substantial cut to pay for software licenses and hardware. Alhamdulillah, we finished making the car! The problem is that the site is not able to get a clear separation between CG and 3D printing. You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. just 2 years ago still existed. I think arguments of differences in search are irrelevant when someone is looking for the same model to compare prices between the two biggest players. We are looking for contributors. Downside at CGTrader is as i've just been informed from Support is NO you can't sell the licence here and transfer it into another users name. And between CGTrader and TurbuSquid, I think, let everything will be decided in a reasonable competition. The age of 3D models is over and people have moved on to 3D printing. They also have multiple sellers selling the same products so that it is easier for people to avoid people paying for shipping in their country. When someone uploads a scanned model for 3D printing and tags it as "low poly", the model will appear even where it shouldn't. I don't know whether it would be possible to implement, but it would stop those who just wanted to download as many free models as possible. So, Ts will probably have a few thousand lawsuits to issue in following months if they like. At the moment i think its more a community of sellers and not so much of buyers. (2034950) 3D (I forgot to put TS up). If a model you like does not have a suitable file format, be sure to see whether the designer offers free file conversions for the model. And IMHO search is an area where CGT shoul focus first. 2. TurboSquid be avoided guys! Well, after a long search, I found a negative point from CGTrader compared to TS. What would be your opinion? Hi adentonclark, So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. CGTrader just doesn't have the exposure it needs yet to top Turbosquid but I am confident it will surpass it in time because of the quality of it's products but word of mouth is key in this business and people need to be talking more about them. @limonadinis If you have any questions about these. Exclusivity to any marketplace has been proved a revenue loss. Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. Turbosquid has a horrendous up-loader Ah crap, not sure how that referal spam sneaked into turbosquid link, here is the clean one: https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/cathedral-paris-notre-dame-3d-obj/933856, I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there. What this shows is their weakness. Thus by searching to widen its audience, the buyer only decrease the site credibility. So click on a category. just share your links (: I like both but prefer cgtrader all day. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. If you have any questions about these. So let's hope that at some point, the designers of the site will establish some filters to guarantee a minimal quality and, why not, a "good practice charter" for the sellers, or that they will explain some sellers that their attitude is not good in the long term for the site credibility. I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. Turbosquid has terrible royalty rates The more people ho place your item in their stores the higher your ranking for that product gets "in the pool that is". They customize those figures anyway you want. The duality of 3D printing/CGmodels is a very complex marriage. 3D stock would have main subs like architectural, medical, automotive, etc). I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. Basically just like Turbosquid has done they have become the one stop shop for everything. I remember that too! It needs to be obvious where to go if you want one or the other. https://garagedoorrepairchesapeake.com/garage-door-replacement/. @ Supercigaleha, ha, a good point about ,,the famous CheckMate,, :) TS . But Also Turbosquid actively promotes models on their site with the use o. To be honest, when I first found this site a few days ago I was really excited. My personal experience, having had a short stint as a 3d print seller on Turbosquid, is that they paint with way too broad a brush when it comes to potential IP infringement. But now, I'm exploring a new platform which is Sketchfab. It is always very reassuring to know that our opinions are taken into account. If I compare him with the founder of Ts, then it becomes clear to me we have a completely different relationship. Even when Ts would sell more models it does not mean they serve you well, because it is not. 3D Model characters people woman This is a photorealistic high-quality 3D full-body scan female character It has been sculpted and optimized for animation and game engines with a clean topology. I have to be honest about my view else who am i. This is inherently due to the fact that computers are still very bad when it comes to optimization processes, human brains are far more superior in sorting out things. 3D Bala - Female Rigged Character 3D model ma, ma, obj, and fbx TurboSquid : , , 3D . Products should be grouped not only by name and category but also by poly count. I can't imagine that competing sellers would go for such things as you described, but who knows, there are plenty nuts all around :]. Speaking of it, noting even stops me here from adding in the description of the model something like this,"If you are a maya exeprt and can successful convert this project, then I will completely refund you in exchange for that converted maya file". And i cannot take care for piracy or stolen models because the 3d stuff will go in piracy anyways, doensnt matter the platform it comes from. A little more than a year passed since our public disagreement with Turbosquid policies and behavior that ended our relationship as content creator and reseller. I was thinking about searching for specific 3d models through a site like Google, not generic visitation standing of a whole site, which in itself doesn't tell anything about what clients look for. Yes CGtrader is great! You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. CGTrader remains a young and very responsive team and listening to members - it's a great quality. This is a photorealistic high-quality 3D full-body scan female character, rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Realistic White Male and Female Head Bundle. CG trader is the first helpfull professional website I've seen in 20 years. Of course if you have a PC with quad processors over 16 GB of ram things will be different but be warned students and low end users. By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use. Turbosquid has a bot spying cgtrader prices. Answer (1 of 7): I'm a CGtrader member for almost two years now and in my opinion it is the best platform for stock media developers available today. Having a direct link/communication is also critical in detecting possible needs and potential new business. but outside of the fact cgtrader is 95% designers and 5% customers its way better and easier to use more professional looking and feeling. You said you have considered closing your store here, I get that but why not just keep it up? So part of the problem would probably be solved if a buyer would indeed get reputation points for buying models and gain more access in the process. We left TS account and getting occasional spam regarding the prices from them. Each sold model you can find anyone time in a download center. That place is dead for me. Care to share your time machine? According to me ,in the future, more a 3DMarketplace will be open more it will take to success. Hmm, i went to your profile and i see no negative feedback. However, the behavior of these clients kept me thinking and I had some dilemmas about what was actually going on here. I hope I'll have better selling results there. I was stunned to get informed there was no fraud protection (yes people, you pay 60% cut and get no fraud protection). "google8":www.google.com, google10 It's true. Then came price guarantee on Ts and now I had a problem, the part I was now successfully serving on CGt I would not want to risk losing back to Ts, nor would I want to lose those few that kept buying my higher priced models there. They say you can price things anyway you want but then they take down your models if they do not agree with how you price them. This is due to discrimination in the pricing policy of the "TS" site. I hope to find same courage someday ;-) Here is a quick test that can help understand why there aren't so many buyers. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. Some may look great for close ups but in a large environment scene or house setting when you have a lot of models to let's say show off the interior design of a model home you need to be very careful on poly count. Part of it is because they don't want to get scammed. BUT this is still not as infuriating as a personal account falling once a month with all the statistics! If you have any questions about these. Using TurboSquid products in Browser based games. https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/industrial/other/shipping-container--4. CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. Luckily, non of my sells on TS were refunded so far and i had 3 refunds on CGT, 2 of them was caused by technical reasons from CGT side. Maybe some people don't want to bother about different programs compatibility, while others don't mind to spent time configuring things in different applications. But for the rest i do like the way cgtrader functions, more royalty rate, easy uploading and a community forum and job board. And saying only nice words won't help them much. Everything is more and more coming down to individual levels of very friendly and much more human communication. These people quote Sun Tzu when you talk to them, so guess their future plans for you. Yes you are right Zet! I like the deposit proposal of flat_3d, but jet again it probably best be part of a repertoire of marketing tools the designer could choose from, not a global policy. They recently changed their search engine over there and when you search for Free models it comes up with a few free ones and many more paid ones so from that perspective Turbosquid makes your life even harder lol. (Edge Well, it was more than one year ago that I last intervened on this thread. Then there is the stupid "reputation" point issue. But i think CGT nows that pretty well, that's why they decided to bring changes in royalty policy and hopefully they will steer additional cash flow towards making this stock market more attractive to the buyers. I ran my test with "characters" and displayed 128 models on one page. Putting 3D printing as the main product range on first page doesn't help, as has been noted. It's sad cgtrader promote only printing models and forget about regular models. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. Site itself must have significant changes to make it more attractive and more convenient to buyers, especially big buyers. In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the . Anyway, there is still some ocasional Turbosquid fanboy that bashes CGtrader and promotes Turbosquid in public forums and social media while writes this in TS forums at the same time: [google7|http://www.google.com] We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/96a1c5f2-d18b-4e5c-ab3c-01bd5189b9ca/TurboSquid_Monopoly.png CGt basically needs to be good at one thing, "facilitating a sales platform". I have it is about 5%. It is pretty awesome!!! In one case, the model is promising, commercial, and then set a high price. In something limonadinis says is true, but I agree with tomislavveg. Gumroad. Every market needs time, every business needs it. Why should the artist suffer? Renderosity. TurboCrooks should be boycotted by artists since they are the one responsible for the situation! For example, make affiliation partnerships between people/storeowners possible. By registering you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. To me this was a sign that people know about CGt and that users have at least two accounts. Imagine how much easier it would be for a games company to do a search by typing in (sword, 15 dollars and then 500 polygons. All that time that we didn't have to spent dealing with Turbosquid bad support went to more time for artistic work. CGtrader.com3. My opinions have evoluted over the months. Matt Wisdom describes Turbosquid as "a sort of Ebay" when in fact Turbosquid works exactly the same as classic "supermarket providers" where the reseller profits the most from the producers by keeping them totally apart from the customers. [url=http://www.google.com]google2[/url] Animated Camel 3D Model 13. I was thinking of ok if the ts is shit why not using other marketplace with the cgt specially if both accept selling in other marketplace, You have zero 3D models uploaded here. Turbosquid has too many models I do not know if community-policing has helped other sites keep their products better organized. My sales are not still on par with TS, but I haven't published new models for quite some time, because I only have time to create models to enter challenges from time to time. That's why I won't model one single model for online sale until this heinous situation is rectified. Just uploading on turbosquid is a pain in the butt. the only advantages in cgtrader are the big rates for clients. The other issue is that Turbosquid has been out there for longer. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. We've been doing business with Turbosquid for more than 10 years until our very public issues last year: http://www.nonecg.com/turbosquid/turbosquid_nonecg.htm. Royalty rate of CGTrader allows the seller to make a model cheaper than on TurboSquid. Although in the beginning that meant the loss of a big part of income (being Turbosquid the biggest 3D content reseller), after just a few adjustment months from that specific point our sales in ALL the other marketplaces started to grow up to a point where we don't miss any income from the missing Turbosquid sales anymore, while 90% of "customer problems" suddenly disappeared. Needed something better and found it at CGt. f9acb067-ba84-4d38-8a65-8d3c4249a700Zoom.jpg httpswww.turbosquid.com3d-modelsfemale-rigged-3d-model1041167 --GENERAL-- This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. You can change your subscription preferences at any time in the account settings. If I narrow to "man", it's even worse : 64 out of 128 models displayed are scanned 3d models. If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. Professional Rigged 3D Female Models Toggle Navigation; 3D Models New & Unrated Rigged Price. We state our opinions based on verifiable facts and stats, which is one of the most interesting parts of this thread. They did so by making products that looked so much cooler than PCs and people were fooled and then eventually they made so much money that then they kept putting back into the product and eventually came out with the Ipad which even all Apple haters love.